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which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both campaigns have sophisticated people that know how to read polling and take it into account. some let it drive the news media, sometimes it drives fundraising in a way it shouldn't. the fact of the matter is, it is a snapshot in time. i keep reminding people of two elections one was michigan in 1990. the free press detroit news had polls taken out on governor ambulance char's campaign -- governor blanch's campaign, he lost. >> arthel: ron how important are the polls do voters pay attention? >> voters definitely pay attention to polls, they hear a lot about polls there's been a lot of media hy
which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both...
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i'm a supporter of mitt romney. i hope he does well. >> cenk: god every time i laugh when i see that guy. who says being president was awesome, i had power and fame. you know what happens even though they have been hiding from bush right now george w. bush more popular than mitt romney. when you are losing to w, you are in big trouble, mitt! that's why you find yourself in the middle of the ring >> gavin: welcome to nine show. millions of peep tao*epb agers have treasured the come can go of age story the perks of being a wall flower now the author it s* out with a huge movie starring the author of the book emma watson if her first post potter film. steven is here as he reveals his only personal story behind the book and movie. and looking at high innovations in medicine are so slow to
i'm a supporter of mitt romney. i hope he does well. >> cenk: god every time i laugh when i see that guy. who says being president was awesome, i had power and fame. you know what happens even though they have been hiding from bush right now george w. bush more popular than mitt romney. when you are losing to w, you are in big trouble, mitt! that's why you find yourself in the middle of the ring >> gavin: welcome to nine show. millions of peep tao*epb agers have treasured the come...
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mitt romney is the solution. [applause] the other thing he said is in this country, every generation of americans fixes their problems so they can leave the next generation better off. that is the american legacy. for the first time in the history of our country, we know if we stick with the same failed policies of the last four years, we guarantee our children get a diminished future. we cannot allow that to happen. it is our moral obligation to save the american dream for our children and grandchildren. [applause] this is why we need leadership. take a look at mitt romney's record, history, the man he is, and then you will know this is the kind of man we need to lead us. mitt romney knows firsthand what it takes to grow the economy, to grow businesses, and create jobs. he has helped to create tens of thousands of jobs. being successful in business is a good thing. we admire that. we do not resent that. we want more of that. we want a successful business people. this is the kind of experience we need. he is a ma
mitt romney is the solution. [applause] the other thing he said is in this country, every generation of americans fixes their problems so they can leave the next generation better off. that is the american legacy. for the first time in the history of our country, we know if we stick with the same failed policies of the last four years, we guarantee our children get a diminished future. we cannot allow that to happen. it is our moral obligation to save the american dream for our children and...
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romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up
romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up
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romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel on its borders and he just wanted his state of play. understand this is a relationship, piers. prime minister netanyahu and governor romney go back a number of decades. theyorked together in business when they were both graduates from business school. they've kept in touch over the years. so prime minister netanyahu is someone that the governor reaches out to from time to time just to get his perspectives on the region and he certainly felt that given what's going on right now, in addition to the iranian crisi
romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel...
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for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >> what's so secret? i pretended to be a candidate. limited government -- >> just limited government. what kind of limits are you talking about? can you be specific. >> yes, i can list cuts. >> would you cut defense? >> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that.
for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >>...
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we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >> we have very much the same interests to make sure iran does not develop nuclear capability which would threaten the existence of israel. the threat, devastation, potentially of israel and other nations of the world. we must make every effort to prevent that from developing that nuclear capability. >> he has called for crippling sanctions to be put in place. >> the u.s. admitting they lost track of some of syria's chemical weapons and cannot rule out their ran or syrian rebels have them. >> there has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken
we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >>...
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romney and mr. ryan are saying about obama and bided our true and medicare, why would the american medical association and doris our policy? why would the american hospital association and most important, why would aarp endorse this? [applause] that have no credibility. on this issue. secondly, what they don't tell you is equally important to what they tell you. they don't tell you what they would do about medicare. the first thing they would do if they took the action they are proposing to take were they to win, you would eliminate the new benefits, $800 more for prescription drugs, which visits, it would also move medicare trust fund insolvency to 2016, three years from now. the third the is what they don't want to talk about. they don't want to tell you they are for medicare. they are for a voucher-care. they say it will affect anybody on medicare now. it will not kick in for 10 years. if you are 55 years old, it will kick in. a couple of years ago, the intellectual right laid down a proposal --
romney and mr. ryan are saying about obama and bided our true and medicare, why would the american medical association and doris our policy? why would the american hospital association and most important, why would aarp endorse this? [applause] that have no credibility. on this issue. secondly, what they don't tell you is equally important to what they tell you. they don't tell you what they would do about medicare. the first thing they would do if they took the action they are proposing to...
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on the day that mitt romney was under attack by everybody, steve croft asking obama if mitt romney screw up -- that is the kind of thing that cbs is not holding him accountable. both candidates will do the syrupy things but mitt romney is doing press conferences and obama has not been doing press conferences. you can look at the research on this. president obama has done more one-on-one said downs then press conferences. he likes to control the message and he would rather sit down with barbara walters and have her ask them what superpower he would like to have. host: fredericksburg, va., an airline for democrats -- -- on our line for democrats -- caller: i get tired of them talking about liberal, biased media. if there was, do you think they will allow george bush' to set p the war on allied? a lie? our country wanted to collapse, how many economic speculative to they have and the network? none of them do this? they talk about the kindness of mitt romney because he is a preacher -- printer or bishops at this church. isa pasture -- but pastor's not help his flock, you need to find another
on the day that mitt romney was under attack by everybody, steve croft asking obama if mitt romney screw up -- that is the kind of thing that cbs is not holding him accountable. both candidates will do the syrupy things but mitt romney is doing press conferences and obama has not been doing press conferences. you can look at the research on this. president obama has done more one-on-one said downs then press conferences. he likes to control the message and he would rather sit down with barbara...
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obama and romney are using it. they're all using it. why are there any nebraskans over the age of 65 who are uninsured? the answer is federal law. the same arguments you hear will level against medicare in 1965. >> thank you. this is stealing over $700 billion from medicare, taking that reimbursement from hospitals. hospitals than expected to make that up. they expect to make it up because the increase in patients that would be on government insurance. that was the deal made. you can talk about political statements, but the fact is, it takes at $700 billion from medicare. >> thank you, senator. the next is for sen. fischer. >> do you think every american is entitled to healthcare, quality health care to insurance? or do you think it is something that should be earned. >> i believe we need to look at the affordability of health care. we need to make sure americans can afford it. we need to make sure that americans have opportunities to have jobs, good paying jobs, in order to purchase health care. as i said earlier, we always need to be
obama and romney are using it. they're all using it. why are there any nebraskans over the age of 65 who are uninsured? the answer is federal law. the same arguments you hear will level against medicare in 1965. >> thank you. this is stealing over $700 billion from medicare, taking that reimbursement from hospitals. hospitals than expected to make that up. they expect to make it up because the increase in patients that would be on government insurance. that was the deal made. you can talk...
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i will say that ann romney is feisty. i love what she did because it is so he a man at the helm tamp they don't her down too much. -- because she is so human, i hope they don't tamp her down too much. she is looking right at you, our eyes are not batting around. she is focused. i said, you seem unflappable. she said, i'm less flappable that last time around. i am tough. her husband has to be so controlled at all times, she sees herself as someone that can speak up for him. i love it. >> anybody have a question? >> [inaudible] i was wondering about fact checking in truth telling, in the same way they had viral moments where they pushed back. i have seen you do it, too. what about your vote on this? q. you think it has been a constructive conversation? and does it encourage you to push back when you are dealing with the campaign? >> i think it has always been our job. i have worked in columbus ohio at albany, new york. they are very political cities with a high-profile governors. to some extent, you have to put that out of
i will say that ann romney is feisty. i love what she did because it is so he a man at the helm tamp they don't her down too much. -- because she is so human, i hope they don't tamp her down too much. she is looking right at you, our eyes are not batting around. she is focused. i said, you seem unflappable. she said, i'm less flappable that last time around. i am tough. her husband has to be so controlled at all times, she sees herself as someone that can speak up for him. i love it. >>...
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>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go up. in florida in may, he was at 35% unfavorable. now he is 48% unfavorable. in ohio, 34%, now 49%. it is a problem. that has just been the reverse with obama. what do you do? mitt does not have a rose garden. >> charles, you write that in the wake of what is happening in the middle east, romney's "un willingness to go big is simply astonishing." >> it was a great opening this week, with embassies of flame, the ambassador killed, writes -- riots -- that is a collapse of the four-year policy on the middle east. rather than make a serious speech connecting the dots and talking about exactly that, the collapse of the policy or the result of a naiv
>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go...
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romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the defensive and now he has a lot of ground to make up. gwen: is there an argument to be made that there is a policy shift going on in america's mind as well, not just a good speech or a good piece of positioning, but actually people are looking at their choices differently now? >> there are ways to think of this, not just through polling data but economic data and there is a surge of optimism. small business confidence is up. some financial market participant indexes are up. this would suggest that people are starting to feel
romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the...
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romney, livermore. also very strong in a primary debate, as you just alluded to, especially against gingrich. >> i'm sure fully ready to go push and shove. i hope the talks more about what he will do as president. we all knew -- we all know what obama has done. we don't need to be reminded of all of that. don't make it -- pointing out of the mistakes that the president made. make it a little more about yourself. lori: boxing gloves. >> television is a cool medium. you want your commander in chief, your president to basically looked like he is totally in control. so i would always advise a candidate in a presidential debate to never lose your cool. lori: you raise the issue of tv. it has to be exciting tv. has to be compelling and capture that audience. >> it will be a dramatic audience. and what always happens is, the first debate is the one that everybody watches. and so, people i know starting to vote early. 30-40 percent of the voters voting this time. before, the end of season. so after this debate
romney, livermore. also very strong in a primary debate, as you just alluded to, especially against gingrich. >> i'm sure fully ready to go push and shove. i hope the talks more about what he will do as president. we all knew -- we all know what obama has done. we don't need to be reminded of all of that. don't make it -- pointing out of the mistakes that the president made. make it a little more about yourself. lori: boxing gloves. >> television is a cool medium. you want your...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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romney is a man at war with himself. he has to it go in and be the aggressor here and take the fight to the president. he also has to prove himself more likable. those two objectives are at odds with each other. >> what does he have to project? >> he has to project a credible program that will sell the american people on -- >> what does he have to project about himself? >> the whole likability thing. >> he has to project confidence in himself? [ all talking at once ] >> excuse me, i want to finish my thought, please. >> we all want to fin shall a thought. >> please. he needs to project a credible economic program that would sell the american people that he would be better than the current occupant. [ all talking at once ] >> let pat in. let pat in. >> his problem is not confidence. his problem is, is he one of us? does he really understand us? he's got to do a number of things. rich is right, he's not only got to say, look, this guy, obama basically is a good guy. he has failed. he's got no new ideas. we're going down th
romney is a man at war with himself. he has to it go in and be the aggressor here and take the fight to the president. he also has to prove himself more likable. those two objectives are at odds with each other. >> what does he have to project? >> he has to project a credible program that will sell the american people on -- >> what does he have to project about himself? >> the whole likability thing. >> he has to project confidence in himself? [ all talking at once...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is r
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia beach, president obama tailored his latest attack on mitt romney to the military voters here as he hit his opponent for his recent comments that 37% of americans who don't pay income taxes see themselves as victims. >> i travel a lot around this country and i don't immediate meet a lot of victims. i see a lot of veterans who have served this country with bravery and distinction and i see soldiers who defend our freedom every single day and i see those military families who are wondering whether their loved ones are going to come back home safe and
jim acosta traveling with mitt romney. president obama is trying to gain support what has traditionally been republican territory. what are you seeing? >> reporter: as you know, election day may be weeks away, but in virginia, ab sen tea voting is already under way and that is why you saw president obama and mitt romney treading on each other's turf this week. president obama heading to virginia beach as he tries to keep virginia out of reach for romney. >> reporter: in virginia...
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mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. failure to vote can make or break an election. if you don't think that's true why do you think a little man [ censor bleep ] florida? >> jennifer: who can for get that video? well sarah silverman and her pals are at it again, in 2012 and they have enlisted the help of some very high profile friends. take a look. >> millionaires just declared war, on schools, the environment, unions fair pay, we're all on our own if mitt romney is elected. i strongly suggest that you wake the [ censor bleep ] up. >> jennifer: so now let's get to one of the brains behind the great shlep and wake the bleep up. thank you for being here? >> thank you for having me. >> how did you
mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. failure to vote can make or break an election. if you don't think that's true why do you think a little man [ censor bleep ] florida?...
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here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head back appoints. in fact of the sophisticated polling to run the is significantly ahead in florida, going to not have to put marco rubio on the ticket. it is a state that is fundamentally a republican state and growing more so as demographic changes continue to increase. the population from the northeast down and to florida. ohio, which is my home state, is pretty easy for me to predict. i go there a lot. going there on thursday for five days. at try and stay in touch, not with political elites in columbus, the the governor is a wonderful governor. i like to talk to, believe it or not, people in ohio, my hometown, uniontown, a democratic town, not an obama town. to they want the industry to continue unimpeded in its spread of wealth and jobs. the first to a new steel plants have opened in the last four years. they produce piping for the fracking industry which president obama
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romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes out. you got to watch over time. but what's significant is that the advantage that obama got as that began to lock in has continued. in fact, his advantage has tennten continued to grow. just in the last couple days analysts have moved almost all of the battleground states like pennsylvania or michigan now likely democratic states. >> down in wisconsin as well? >> absolutely. weep saw larry sabato, just moved four u.s. senate races from leans republican to toss-up. these are states like north dakota. i think there is an impact. i thi
romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes...
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he asked mitt romney if he can stop the outsourcing of his jobs. the secret service moved in and everybody started chanting to drown him out. he said he did not understand that the people in the audience were shouting at him that they were communists. here we are, american workers, simply protesting are jobs being sent to communist china and they are calling us communists? host: amy goodman has been our guest for the last 45 minutes. she is the host of "democracy now" and her book is the "silenced majority." she is in the middle of a 100- city tour. there's a good chance she is coming to a city near you. guest: you can go to democracy now.org. host: thank you for being with us. >> tomorrow, washington journal will talk with third-party candidates in the presidential election. first, green party candidate jill stein will talk about her party's platform and the challenges of running as a third-party candidate in the two party system. that is followed by constitution party candidate virgil goode. he won the constitution party nomination back in april.
he asked mitt romney if he can stop the outsourcing of his jobs. the secret service moved in and everybody started chanting to drown him out. he said he did not understand that the people in the audience were shouting at him that they were communists. here we are, american workers, simply protesting are jobs being sent to communist china and they are calling us communists? host: amy goodman has been our guest for the last 45 minutes. she is the host of "democracy now" and her book is...
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it was a bad week for mitt romney. he wanted to take time and look for bright spots in the campaign. can we find them? maybe something can fire up romney's dejected supporters. let's hear what the candidate himself had to say at a fund-raiser in pennsylvania today. >> you know, we would shock people if early in the evening of november 6th it looked like pennsylvania was going to come our way and did come our way. that can happen. that can happen. >> key word is shock. that can really happen? a real confidence booster. romney is right to feel uneasy about pennsylvania. republican poll stores told him why he is in a bad position with pennsylvania voters. >> the bain capital ads that the europe packs have run have stopped some of the mitt romney's growth in the western part of the state with working class voters. >> romney is not getting much support from those closest to him either. anonymous friends of the campaign savaged the candidate in politico. he was called lousy candidate and he doesn't know the room and he is mi
it was a bad week for mitt romney. he wanted to take time and look for bright spots in the campaign. can we find them? maybe something can fire up romney's dejected supporters. let's hear what the candidate himself had to say at a fund-raiser in pennsylvania today. >> you know, we would shock people if early in the evening of november 6th it looked like pennsylvania was going to come our way and did come our way. that can happen. that can happen. >> key word is shock. that can...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy joy-ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuc
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to hear tightening of the race and that is because the media wants to generated ratings or because there is a guilt on the mainstream media, maybe we should be covering this a little more fairly than we have bon been. you are shaking your head no? >> i do think media polls can be a little skewed. i have a friend that used to do it. ding, it's been cooked and here is what you wanted. the thing is, there is bias but it's evenly split. some are weighted towards republicans and some are weighted towards democrats so the real clear politics average so romney is down about four po
fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to...
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bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult legacy for, i think any republican, romney or anyone, to have to deal. >> the romney campaign said it wants to make the election about the economy, and initially it really tried to do that. but polls show that now americans, as you mentioned, tend to assign more blame to bush than to obama when it comes to that issue. 68% say bush should get a great deal or mode
bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he...